Discussing the history of socialism with Armstrong & Getty

Yesterday, I participated in a special extended podcast with Armstrong & Getty and Craig Gottwals, talking about the book Heaven on Earth by Joshua Muravchik. It's a history of socialism, and we got into not only the history, but the theoretical problems with socialism, why it inevitably leads to totalitarianism, what the difference is between socialism and fascism...and why I probably would have been a socialist if I had lived 150 years ago. It was actually a lot of fun. You can listen here.